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Date: 1988-02 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
Booting disk software on an 800XL reliably.  
 
1.  Dave Goldblatt  
 More options Feb 1 1988, 1:58 am
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From: d@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Dave Goldblatt) -
Date: 31 Jan 88 16:58:25 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 1 1988 1:58 am
Subject: Re: Booting disk software on an 800XL reliably.
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Sounds like from your description (dropping into the notepad) that you may
have a bad connection between your 800XL and your drive; if you're hearing
the infamous (thhhhhpt) sound (!), that means your drive isn't connected.
(to hear what that sounds like if you're not familiar with it, just unplug
the drive and turn on the computer)

I would suggest swapping cables (if you have extras), checking for bad/loose
pins, and maybe cleaning the contacts..

-dg-

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2.  Gil Kloepfer Jr.  
 More options Feb 1 1988, 3:35 pm
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From: g@icus.UUCP (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) -
Date: 1 Feb 88 06:35:04 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 1 1988 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Booting disk software on an 800XL reliably.
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In article <1988Jan25.130826.28@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> j@db.toronto.edu ("John D. DiMarco") writes:

>In article <5@nuchat.UUCP> p@nuchat.UUCP (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>I have been having trouble getting disks booted on an 800XL. Sometimes
>>it takes 4 or 5 tries to boot up (say) Boulder Dash Construction Kit,
>>following directions in the package or not. Usually it doesn't even hit the
>>disk... just gives me notepad.

>You mean 'self-test mode', don't you? An 800XL doesn't have a notepad mode.

>Anyhow - how warm is the room your computer is in? I've found on my 800XL
>(with one 1050 drive), that if the room is too cold, I have to try several times
>before I can get the disk booted.

[some descriptions & suggested solutions deleted]

>>I have an 800 with two Percom DD drives, and an 800XL with 2 1050s (as well as
>>a Zenith terminal and an Amiga 1000 with 4.5 Megs...

This isn't the same problem, but this might explain some wierd disk activity
that could be the cause of problems such as the ones above.

Although the Atari computer components themselves are well-shielded as
a rule (the 1050 disk is not really), the cables are not really shielded.
I have found when I connected more than one drive or printer off the
interface serial port, I get spiratic disk errors (which sometimes ruin
the data on the disk), and some retries on sector reads when booting DOS (not
something that's a ususal occurance).

What I have attributed the problems to, since I had no problem with the
computer before I moved to an apartment, is the MASSIVE amount of RFI (radio
interference) in the area (my television gets a massive amount of
interference from various sources, including what appears to be an unknown
transmitter nearby).  I believe that some of the more powerful interference
is being picked-up inside the disk drive circuitry, causing the drive to
act up.

I have looked into the various hardware-related problems including a
very comprehensive look at my drive and different disks, etc.  It is
definitely not either.

I am curious if similar problems have occurred like this in Atari or other
manufacturers' equipment.  Also, has anyone shortened the interface cables
on their Atari equipment to see if this helps?  Perhaps it is being
picked-up through the AC line?  Please post answers to these or related
queries unless they would not benefit others.

Becuase I tend to be lax in sending each individual who replies to my postings
a note of thanks, I thank anyone who replies in advance.

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3.  Peter da Silva  
 More options Feb 5 1988, 11:50 am
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From: p@nuchat.UUCP (Peter da Silva) -
Date: 5 Feb 88 02:50:32 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 5 1988 11:50 am
Subject: Re: Booting disk software on an 800XL reliably.
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In article <1988Jan25.130826.28@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, j@db.toronto.edu ("John D. DiMarco") writes:

> I'll trade you an 800XL with one drive, an MPP1000C modem, and a 1020 plotter
> for that Amiga. :-)

Throw in a Pixar and Leo Schwab's bike and I'll do it.
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4.  Peter da Silva  
 More options Feb 5 1988, 11:50 am
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From: p@nuchat.UUCP (Peter da Silva) -
Date: 5 Feb 88 02:50:32 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 5 1988 11:50 am
Subject: Re: Booting disk software on an 800XL reliably.
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In article <1988Jan25.130826.28@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, j@db.toronto.edu ("John D. DiMarco") writes:

> I'll trade you an 800XL with one drive, an MPP1000C modem, and a 1020 plotter
> for that Amiga. :-)

Throw in a Pixar and Leo Schwab's bike and I'll do it.
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-- Disclaimer: These aren't mere opinions... these are *values*.

 
Hard Drives  
 
1.  Rich Andrews  
 More options Feb 1 1988, 7:46 am
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From: r@jolnet.UUCP (Rich Andrews) -
Date: 31 Jan 88 22:46:16 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 1 1988 7:46 am
Subject: Re: Hard Drives
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In article <2@ihlpe.ATT.COM> d@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Daryl Monge) writes:
>In article <1@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, b@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian David Bisson) writes:

>You can't go wrong with ICD.

>Daryl Monge                         UUCP:   ...!ihnp4!ihcae!daryl

Do you want to take a bet on that last statement?  ICD is not a real
ethically run business.  My advice to you is " Be Careful".

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2.  Give me a quarter or I'll touch you  
 More options Feb 2 1988, 4:46 am
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From: dra@olivej.olivetti.com (Give me a quarter or I'll touch you) -
Date: 1 Feb 88 19:46:09 GMT
Local: Tues, Feb 2 1988 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Hard Drives
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in article <2@ihlpe.ATT.COM>, d@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Daryl Monge) says:

> In article <1@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, b@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian David Bisson) writes:
>> I have had my 8-bit for a while now, an ATARI 1200XL, and the one Rana smart
>> drive I have just is not enough.  I am interested in Hard Drives for the
>> Atari, working with them alot on IBM PCs at work, and see their advantages
>> clearly.  Could someone tell me their availability and approxomate new/used
>> cost?  Also where I could get docs on memory upgrades here in Florida.
> By far the best route has to be the ICD MIO/SCSI disk combination.  Plus it
> has the advantage of having a SCSI disk you can put on a future ST for just
> the cost of the controller (ICD has one of those too!)
> You can't go wrong with ICD.
> Daryl Monge                                UUCP:   ...!ihnp4!ihcae!daryl
> AT&T                                   CIS:    72717,65
> Bell Labs, Naperville, Ill         AT&T        312-979-3603

Unfortunately, the MIO only works on 130XEs/800XLs and I *think* the 600XL.
The Supra board is in the same boat.  I can only suggest to Brian that he
may need to upgrade/downgrade (depending on how you look at it) his machine
before pursuing this further.

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Larry Flynt buys ANALOG???  
 
1.  jhs  
 More options Feb 2 1988, 3:37 am
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Date: 1 Feb 88 18:37:17 GMT
Local: Tues, Feb 2 1988 3:37 am
Subject: Larry Flynt buys ANALOG???
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I can't resist commenting that I could see Flynt buying "ANTIC", possibly
because he thought the name would be appropriate for one of HIS kind of
magazines.  But ANALOG???

Reminds me of a true incident, back in the days before everyone had home
computers or interest in computer magazines, when a friend of mine recommended
to the company librarian and her assistant that they get a subscription for
the library to Byte Magazine.  They both gave him a funny look and asked,
"What is that, one of those girlie magazines?"

It really happened, s'help me!

-John Sangster, j@mitre-bedford.arpa


 
 
2.  David Smith  
 More options Feb 3 1988, 4:28 am
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From: dsm@hplabsb.UUCP (David Smith) -
Date: 2 Feb 88 19:28:19 GMT
Local: Wed, Feb 3 1988 4:28 am
Subject: Re: Larry Flynt buys ANALOG???
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In article <8802011837.AA03@mitre-bedford.ARPA>, j@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA writes:
> I can't resist commenting that I could see Flynt buying "ANTIC", possibly
> because he thought the name would be appropriate for one of HIS kind of
> magazines.  But ANALOG???

> Reminds me of a true incident, back in the days before everyone had home
> computers or interest in computer magazines, when a friend of mine recommended
> to the company librarian and her assistant that they get a subscription for
> the library to Byte Magazine.  They both gave him a funny look and asked,
> "What is that, one of those girlie magazines?"

> It really happened, s'help me!

> -John Sangster, j@mitre-bedford.arpa

Then there is Unix World.

                David Smith
                dsmith@hplabs


 
 
3.  John Joubert  
 More options Feb 12 1988, 1:32 am
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From: jpdre@usl-pc.UUCP (John Joubert) -
Date: 11 Feb 88 16:32:16 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 12 1988 1:32 am
Subject: Re: Larry Flynt buys ANALOG???
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I tried to call their offices today, and still no answer even though
an interview with Lee H. Pappas indicated that they would be shipping at
the end of Jan.

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Used 800XL, etc.  
 
1.  P4O  
 More options Feb 3 1988, 10:40 pm
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From: P@PSUVMA.BITNET -
Date: 3 Feb 88 13:40:06 GMT
Local: Wed, Feb 3 1988 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: Used 800XL, etc.
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I have a atari 800XL and run a small BBS system up in the Scranton,Pa
area.  I have the 800Xl with the Newell 256K Ramdisk.
Although I think it is a great machine CMO seems to differ.
Computer Mail Order no longer carries the 800Xl series.
I tried to get one for my friend.  I had to call over 20
stores to find one.  Atari no longer makes them so maybe they
finally run out of them

Patrick O'Toole
Worthless Worthington Penn State Campus


 

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