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Date: 1988-10 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
light gun?  
 
1.  Kit Kimes  
 More options Oct 1 1988, 12:29 am
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From: k@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Kit Kimes) -
Date: 30 Sep 88 15:29:56 GMT
Local: Sat, Oct 1 1988 12:29 am
Subject: Re: Re: light gun?
| | | | | | |
| In article <Sep.28.20.47.46.1988.15@topaz.rutgers.edu> wilm@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ray Wilmott) writes:
|>...What games are
|>currently available for use with the light gun, and what ones are
|>due to be released shortly?
|
|   The only two currently out I know of are BUG HUNT and BARNYARD BLASTER
| (both from Atari Corp.). An interesting thing I saw at the Glendale Faire
| (but forgot to mention! Sorry!) was a near-finished version of Exidy's
| CROSSBOW for the XEGS/light gun.
|
|   Terrific game, all the kids were playing it both days. Seems to have all
| the original's features.
|
Yes, I saw the same demo at the Summer CES.  Crossbow was supposed to be out
the 3rd quarter (almost over).  Another that is supposed to be out this
quarter that uses the light gun is Crime Busters (RX8104).  It seems like
it should be quite interesting also if you like to fancy yourself as
Elliot Ness.

                                        Kit Kimes  
                                        AT&T--Bell Laboratories
                                        ...att!ihlpe!kimes


 
 
2.  Still A Mystery,,,  
 More options Oct 14 1988, 11:22 am
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From: phan@olivej.atc.OLIVETTI.COM (Still A Mystery,,,) -
Date: 14 Oct 88 02:22:07 GMT
Local: Fri, Oct 14 1988 11:22 am
Subject: Re: light gun?
| | | | | | |

        I read awhile ago in an ANTIC or ANALOG magazine an
        article that explains how to hookup a Nintendo light
        gun to the Atari system.  I believe the article says
        that the gun costs about $25.00.

        This is of course for those who don't want to wait
        for Atari to market their gun separately.

Scott Cozzo                 {ucbvax,etc.}!hplabs!oliveb!olivej!phantom                                                                    
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Using Kermit/65 with DOS 3.0  
 
1.  Christopher Chiesa  
 More options Oct 1 1988, 4:20 am
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From: cfchi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher Chiesa) -
Date: 30 Sep 88 19:20:27 GMT
Local: Sat, Oct 1 1988 4:20 am
Subject: Re: Using Kermit/65 with DOS 3.0
| | | | | | |

In article <8809301304.AA03@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, PARS@KSUVM.BITNET (Scott Parish) writes:
> Although Dos 3.0 is perhaps the worst in the world,

Too true!  :-)

> Problem: I have programs saved on Dos 3.0 disks that I would like to switch
> over to Dos 2.5 using Kermit/65 under Dos 3.0 to transfer programs to the
> mainframe at school and then using Kermit/65 under Dos 2.5 to get them back.

If you can get Kermit to work under DOS 3.0 this is a perfectly acceptable
technique;  however, I thought you might be interested in the fact that I
once accomplished the DOS 3.0 - to - DOS 2.0 conversion using nothing more
elaborate than Atari BASIC!  Now if I can just remember HOW I did it...

As I recall, the program simply read the file-to-be-converted into a huge
string buffer (I used repeated GETs, but a direct CIO call in ML would be
cool too), under DOS 3.0; I was then able to soft-boot DOS 2.0 into memory
without losing the BASIC environment, and write the string buffer back out
using repeated PUTs.  I was limited to the size of the string buffer, which
ment a few COPY/APPEND's once I had the pieces on DOS 2.0, but it did work
and I was able to get rid of DOS 3.0 for good.

Of course, I now find myself racking my brains to figure out how the &**&^(!*&^&
I managed to boot 2.0 without turning off the machine or losing the BASIC
environment.  As I recall, it was very simple -- just a USR call to some
system vector, given manually at the READY prompt -- and it did NOT work the
"other way around" -- once in DOS 2.0 I could NOT similarly soft-boot into
DOS 3.0 again.  Had to turn the machine off and reboot with 3.0 every time
I needed to get a new piece of file-to-transfer.

Anyway, if anybody here can deduce how I booted into 2.0 from 3.0, in BASIC,
without losing anything, that might be the way to go as I'm sure with CIO
calls it would be much faster than Kermit transfer!  Plus you won't tie up
your telephone line!  :-)  I *can* offer you my support that it DOES WORK;
unfortunately for this instance I literally did GET RID OF my DOS 3.0 disk
and cannot repeat my experiment on your behalf.  I'll see if I can find it
(borrow from friends) but in the meantime, Netters, what can we come up with?

Enjoy...

  Chris Chiesa

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2.  reader.john.kawakami  
 More options Oct 2 1988, 7:54 pm
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From: c91a@franny.Berkeley.EDU (reader.john.kawakami) -
Date: 2 Oct 88 10:54:04 GMT
Local: Sun, Oct 2 1988 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: Using Kermit/65 with DOS 3.0
| | | | | | |
Really re: converting from dos3 to dos2

I thought there was a utility on the dos 2.5 disk to convert from dos 3 to
dos 2.  But I'm probably mistaken.

In any event...  There was a program a couple years back in A.N.A.L.O.G that
converted files from dos 3 to dos 2.  I would guess this can be found on some
BBSs as something like DOS3TO2.PRG.

I think Antic also had a similar program.  Antic also published a program
that turned your drive into a virtual 410 program (cassette) recorder.
You would load from dos3.  save onto a "cassette" disk. then boot up
and save onto dos 2.  

John Kawakami
TTL EXE MUX PRG A3I MTX TTP FOE TUS APP JTK MMU CRT VDI TOS DRI GEM CPM ACC OMV
JOH NKA WAK AMI c91 a-r a@f ran ny. Ber kel ey. Edu kaw aka mi@ zen .Be kel ey.


 
 
3.  Charles Green  
 More options Oct 30 1988, 6:35 am
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From: char@c3sw.uucp (Charles Green) -
Date: 29 Oct 88 21:35:42 GMT
Local: Sun, Oct 30 1988 6:35 am
Subject: Re: Using Kermit/65 with DOS 3.0
| | | | | | |
No, you're not mistaken.  The utility is COPY32.  It sticks in my mind because
OS32, which runs on Perkin-Elmer ############ Concurrent ########## Masscomp @
(whatever) minis *also* has a utility called COPY32.  But it doesn't do the
same thing. :-)

In article <6@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c91a@franny.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (reader.john.kawakami) writes:
>Really re: converting from dos3 to dos2
>I thought there was a utility on the dos 2.5 disk to convert from dos 3 to
>dos 2.  But I'm probably mistaken.

--
Charles Green   char@c3pe.UUCP      {decuac,cucstud}!c3pe!charles

 
Delphi  
 
1.  BobR  
 More options Oct 1 1988, 12:05 pm
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From: B@cup.portal.com -
Date: 1 Oct 88 03:05:43 GMT
Local: Sat, Oct 1 1988 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: Delphi
| | | | | | |
In response to Scott McPheeters request for information about Delphi...

Delphi's basic hourly connect rate is $7.20/hour.

There is NO extra charge for 300/1200/2400 baud.

If you plan to use the system more than $24 per month, you can take "advantage
of the Advantage Plan, where the connect rate drops to $4.80/hour, which makes
it the *lowest* priced major information service, and this *includes* 2400 bau
service. Telenet/Tymnet network charges are also *included* in the basic rate.

You can access Delphi through Telenet or Tymnet, or if you have PC Pursuit
service, you can access that way, which means you are likely to be within a
local telephone call range from Delphi.

For more info, call 1-800-544-4005

BobR  (and *no*, I don't work for ANY online service anymore)


 
(none)  
 
1.  Edi Almer  
 More options Oct 3 1988, 8:55 am
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From: e@WISDOM.BITNET (Edi Almer) -
Date: 2 Oct 88 23:55:05 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 3 1988 8:55 am
Subject: (none)
| | | | | | |
I am currently using a term prog which
doesnt allow me to emulate any standard
terms. (Amodem)
I have noticed that some people on the
net are using a term prog called kermit65.
As far as I understand this prog gices
you 80clmns and vt100. emulation.
Is this prog shareware ? If so can some
one send it to me or is the rumored atari
archive operating already ?
WIll it work on my setup (800xl , 1050 , xm301 ) ?

Thanx in advance,
-Edi


 
 
2.  Christopher Chiesa  
 More options Oct 3 1988, 5:45 pm
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From: cfchi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher Chiesa) -
Date: 3 Oct 88 08:45:59 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 3 1988 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: (none)
| | | | | | |

In article <8810030427.AA27@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, e@WISDOM.BITNET (Edi Almer) writes:
> I am currently using a term prog which doesnt allow me to emulate any
> standard terms. (Amodem) I have noticed that some people on the net are
> using a term prog called kermit65.  As far as I understand this prog
> gices you 80clmns and vt100 emulation.  Is this prog shareware ? If so
> can some one send it to me or is the rumored atari archive operating
> already ?  WIll it work on my setup (800xl , 1050 , xm301 ) ?

Edi, I think you're going to like this VERY much!

Yes, Kermit65 is available; I've sent it to several people already and can
probably whip off a set of the relevant files to you with little trouble.  The
64-dollar question is, can you pick them out of the Net and onto your Atari
successfully?  If you're using AMODEM, you can perform XMODEM and text-capture
transfer as I recall; forgive me for asking what may seem obvious, but I've
seen problems in this department: does your Net host system support XMODEM?
How about "uudecode"?  "Zoo" archiving?  I'd want to send you a UUencoded
Zoo archive containing the relevant Kermit65 files or, at the very least,
a UUencoded binary of each individual file.

Anyway, your information is correct: Kermit65 gives you 80 columns, driven
in either a GR.8-emulated 80-cols-at-once mode (a little hard to read at
first but you get used to it) or a scrollable 40-columns-at-a-time "windowed"
mode, plus emulates either a VT52 or VT100 (very nicely, I might add) or
"dumb TTY", in addition to Kermit file-transfer.  I ought to point out,
though, that it does *NOT* perform any OTHER form of file-transfer, i.e.
XMODEM or any of its family, nor text-capture.  Nor can you "print screen"
from within a terminal session.  But I use it exclusively when talking to
our University's VMS and UNIX mainframes...

As for whether it works with your setup, I'm not 100% sure, but am about 90%,
that it WILL.  There's a special modem handler required -- I think it's
"SMARTT.COM," can anyone else doublecheck me on this? -- that makes the
XM301 "look like" a Hayes-compatible modem to Kermit65.  Or you could invest
in an SX212, hehehe...

Let me know, via e-mail, which of the utilities (UUdecode, Zoo) you do have
available to you, plus make sure you can download BINARY (not just Text)
files from your host.  If you can do Binary downloads and UUdecoding, I
can send 'em to you.  (Or, alternately, and I should have thought of this,
if you have YAU (Yet Another UUdecoder) on your Atari, you can ASCII-capture
the UUencoded files I send you, and decode them on the Atari.  That might
be easier.)

Chris Chiesa
  Ball State University, Muncie, IN, USA

 Thanx in advance, -Edi

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Kermit 65 and XM301 (was Re: (none))  
 
3.  Hans Breitenlohner  
 More options Oct 6 1988, 6:16 am
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From: h@umd5.umd.edu (Hans Breitenlohner) -
Date: 5 Oct 88 21:16:43 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 6 1988 6:16 am
Subject: Kermit 65 and XM301 (was Re: (none))
| | | | | | |

In article <4@bsu-cs.UUCP> cfchi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher Chiesa) writes:
>In article <8810030427.AA27@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, e@WISDOM.BITNET (Edi Almer) writes:
>> [ asks about using Kermit65 with his setup, an 800XL, 1050, and XM301 ]

>Yes, Kermit65 is available; ...
> ...
>As for whether it works with your setup, I'm not 100% sure, but am about 90%,
>that it WILL.  There's a special modem handler required -- I think it's
>"SMARTT.COM," can anyone else doublecheck me on this? -- that makes the
>XM301 "look like" a Hayes-compatible modem to Kermit65.  Or you could invest

Yes, SMARTT is indeed the handler you need.  Unfortunately, last time I looked
there was a small address overlap between SMARTT and KERMIT, and I was not
able to get a copy of SMARTT based at a lower address.  On the other hand
I think I remember someone reporting that the combination works, so perhaps
nothing serious is getting trashed.

If needed I can send a copy of SMARTT.


 
XF551 Drive <> Flight Sim II incompatible  
 
4.  Terry Conklin  
 More options Oct 7 1988, 1:11 am
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From: conk@eecae.UUCP (Terry Conklin) -
Date: 6 Oct 88 16:11:25 GMT
Local: Fri, Oct 7 1988 1:11 am
Subject: XF551 Drive <> Flight Sim II incompatible
| | | | | | |

A word of warning to you folks considering a purchase of the XF551 and
or Flight Simulator II from Sublogic. These two products are NOT
compatible. I have tried multiple copies of Flight Sim II (fortunately,
friends have it too) and my XF551 simply wont boot them. It's not just
a matter of booting the disks. Switching back to my 810 drive, they (of
course) work just fine.

If I boot with the 810, and then switch drives, it will fail anyhow, on the
next disk access.

It's my impression that this has something to do with a protection scheme on
the disk. Being that my 810 has trouble reading the high tracks on diskettes
(which is why I wanted a decent drive in the first place) I _need_ to be able
to use my good drive.

Being as I started flight school last week, I'm rather miffed.

I have yet to call Sublogic about the problem. But I will.

Terry Conklin
{msudoc|frith|eecae}!conklin
conk@egr.msu.edu
The Club (517) 372-3131


 

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