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Date: 2001-08 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?  
 
1.  sands-of-iowa  
 More options Aug 1 2001, 5:19 pm
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From: "sands-of-iowa" <s@cableone.com> -
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 03:19:49 -0500
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2001 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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askjfk.com wrote in message

<2f83735a.0107300907.3f91d@posting.google.com>...

Why not build it with a buildt in monitor like these TV s with buildt in
VCRs kinda like a old Mac Plus

 
 
2.  Andy Cadley  
 More options Aug 1 2001, 7:42 pm
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From: Andy Cadley <a@sys.uea.ac.uk> -
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:35:14 +0100
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2001 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, sands-of-iowa wrote:
> Why not build it with a buildt in monitor like these TV s with buildt in
> VCRs kinda like a old Mac Plus

Or new iMac.[1] Although that would be a hideously expensive option I
expect.

AndyC
[1] Conclusive proof that you can reinvent the wheel


 
 
3.  David Ogg  
 More options Aug 1 2001, 6:36 pm
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From: David Ogg <david@nc.rr.com> -
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:33:36 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2001 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.10107310846440.25833-100000
@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk>, a@sys.uea.ac.uk says...

I mean verbatim what I said. Name your specs and I'll find you a PC.
 you want QNX? NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NT, Windows (MS), Solaris,
SCO Unix or Unixware?

If the OS is available, it's available on a new PC.

<disclaimer> (and this isn't a cop-out)
This does not include asking for hardware and OS combinations where the
OS doesn't support the hardware you asked for, then claiming I lose
because said hardware won't work, ie: asking for AmigaOS for the Vic-20.
</disclaimer>

<good faith>
I won't just say it's available, I will point you to where you really
can purchase the machine, and actually get a quote for the machine, with
your OS of choice installed, at a very competative price. If you need me
to show you the actual quote to prove it, then so be it.
</good faith>


 
 
4.  David Ogg  
 More options Aug 1 2001, 7:31 pm
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From: David Ogg <david@nc.rr.com> -
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:00:27 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2001 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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In article <9k628s$vl@216.39.130.4>, o@oz.net says...

> David Ogg wrote:

> > Easily, maybe, I can also easily unintegrate IE from Win98 too, there is
> > a way to do it ;) (Was quite an embarassment too, after MS said they
> > couldn't!)

> How is it done?  I'd like to give it a try on one of my experimental
> systems I'm always tinkering with.  :)

> -- Otter

You could get "98lite" which is a piece of software that lets you do a
number of things...

1) Install 98 without IE.
2) uninstall IE from a preinstalled 98
3) install 98, and IE, without integrating them.
4) deintegrating IE from a preinstalled 98

You don't need to use this product though, as you can do it yourself if
you feel comfortable juggling system files. I might try to dig up the
instructions for the DIY method, if I get a chance.


 
 
5.  David Ogg  
 More options Aug 1 2001, 8:31 pm
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From: David Ogg <david@nc.rr.com> -
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:41:08 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2001 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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In article <tmf7qsq165p@corp.supernews.com>, s@cableone.com
says...

> Just who is this $300 computer being buildt for?
> some geek who likes 3" thick manuals about command lines
> or who wants to play with electronics?

Actually we're just building it for the top-poster market ;)


 
 
6.  David Cantrell  
 More options Aug 2 2001, 7:19 am
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From: David Cantrell <usenet-20010@barnyard.co.uk> -
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:16:02 +0100
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2001 3:16 am
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 06:54:43 GMT, David Ogg <david@nc.rr.com> said:

>There are things in linux that it really is harder to do than in
>Windows

None of those things are worthwhile though :-)

>        but these things (like routing,

What on earth gave you the idea routing was hard in Linux?  IME, it's
a damned sight easier than in anything from MS.  It's even easier in
OpenBSD and Solaris.

>                                        wierd protocols like PPPoE)

I see no point in PPPoE.  Why would I ever want to use it?  I'm not
even sure what uses it other than some broken cable modems used by
inferior providers of no service worthy of my consideration.

--
David Cantrell |


 
 
7.  Alan Sharkis  
 More options Aug 2 2001, 9:22 am
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From: "Alan Sharkis" <ashar@optonline.net> -
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:21:09 GMT
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2001 9:21 am
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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I guess I'm a total novice about DSL.  I have cable, and my Linksys
Router/Switch came with directions about setting up PPPoE, but seemed to
imply that it's necessary for DSL.  I certainly don't need it with cable.

Maybe that sheds some light on this sub-sub-sub-topic?

"David Cantrell" <usenet-20010@barnyard.co.uk> wrote in message

...


 
 
8.  David Ogg  
 More options Aug 2 2001, 2:13 pm
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From: David Ogg <david@nc.rr.com> -
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 05:13:12 GMT
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2001 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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In article <V11a7.72167$UH6.11528@news02.optonline.net>,
ashar@optonline.net says...

See below ;)

> > >                                        wierd protocols like PPPoE)

> > I see no point in PPPoE.  Why would I ever want to use it?  I'm not
> > even sure what uses it other than some broken cable modems used by
> > inferior providers of no service worthy of my consideration.

..."are things usually done by someone who should probably spend a
little time learning anyway."

PPPoE is used mostly by DSL providers.

It's a pain in the butt to do in linux, when you have multiple distinct
PPPoE clients that must be routed securely, not just "NATting" them
together behind one PPPoE interface to the DSL.

As far as there being no point in it, if you get stuck having to do it,
you have to do it. (and it sucks)


 
 
9.  David Cantrell  
 More options Aug 4 2001, 3:19 pm
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From: David Cantrell <usenet-20010@barnyard.co.uk> -
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 00:45:01 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 4 2001 8:45 am
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2001 00:21:09 GMT, "Alan Sharkis"
<ashar@optonline.net> said:

>I guess I'm a total novice about DSL.  I have cable, and my Linksys
>Router/Switch came with directions about setting up PPPoE, but seemed to
>imply that it's necessary for DSL.  I certainly don't need it with cable.

How odd.  This 'ere DSL works with Proper Protocols over Ethernet.

>Maybe that sheds some light on this sub-sub-sub-topic?

None whatsoever :-)

--
David Cantrell |


 
 
10.  Greg Buchner  
 More options Aug 2 2001, 12:06 pm
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From: Greg Buchner <nob@mn.rr.com> -
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:06:28 GMT
Local: Thurs, Aug 2 2001 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: If you could design a $300 homecomputer today, what would you choose?
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In article <fihgmt8katlos8g67b87e0cq5qumt61@4ax.com>,
 David Cantrell <usenet-20010@barnyard.co.uk> wrote:

> I see no point in PPPoE.  Why would I ever want to use it?  I'm not
> even sure what uses it other than some broken cable modems used by
> inferior providers of no service worthy of my consideration.

Actually in my area, it's DSL that uses PPPoE...Qwest does it with
some internal DSL modems from Intel so they can turn off the
connection when the person isn't surfing the 'net.

Of course, you can get the DSL without having to use that, but it's
an extra $10 a month plus you have to pay for the modem...they give
you the Intel internal modem for free...

Greg B.
--
Note:  To e-mail me, replace nobody with gbuchner
I don't get junk e-mail and intend to keep it that way.
If you want to send me spam, go jump off a cliff and make
the world a nicer place.


 

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