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Date: 2001-10 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
FS: Atari 8-bit hardware plus other bits  
 
1.  Richard Kilpatrick  
 More options Oct 1 2001, 11:33 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: Richard Kilpatrick <rich@lovecraft.demon.co.uk> -
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:30:41 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2001 11:30 pm
Subject: FS: Atari 8-bit hardware plus other bits
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Sorry for the repost, corrected a couple of errors ;)

Atari 800XL with 256K RAM, 800XL with stereo and PIA upgrade (not sure
that stereo is working, but the 800XL works as it should), 65XE with as-
new XEP-80 interface, 1050 disk drive, good selection of software, plus
Atari 2600 and 2600jr with 8 or so games.
£100 including shipping for the lot.

Alternatively:

256K 800XL with 1010 and 1050 - £40
Stereo+PIA 800XL - £20
Atari 65XE with XEP-80 - £20
2600jr - £5
2600VCS with Crystal Castles, Dark Chambers, Centipede, Dig Dug, Combat,
Pele's Soccer, Adventure and Pac-Man - £20

NeoGeo Pocket with Ms. PacMan, £40

Atari Lynx II, boxed as new, with 5 games (Ms. PacMan, Ishido, Bill &
Ted, Klax, Chips Challenge), £50

Compaq 386 luggable, good condition, with 3Com NIC and Roland SCC-1A
plus MIDI leads, £60 (don't laugh, the card is worth more than the
machine ;) )

Roland MPU-401 with leads and software, £15

Roland D110 sound module, has a fault on the output stage that makes it
distort, £20

Richard

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Packer/unpacker  
 
1.  Jindrich Kubec  
 More options Oct 2 2001, 3:27 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: Jindrich Kubec <kub@asw.cz> -
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 11:58:49 +0200
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2001 6:58 pm
Subject: Packer/unpacker
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Hi,

I'm looking for executable packer/unpacker for 8bit Atari.

Conditions:
1) It must have high compression level
2) Unpacker code must be short, fast and run on any 64kb Atari.
3) Source code is welcome
4) Speed and memory requirements for packer are uninteresting, I'll
rewrite it for PC.

Anyone?

Jindroush (kub@asw.cz)


 
 
2.  Fox-1  
 More options Oct 2 2001, 6:58 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Fox-1" <DONT_USE_fo@home.nl> -
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:49:58 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 2 2001 6:49 am
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Jindrich wrote

: I'm looking for executable packer/unpacker for 8bit Atari.
:
: Conditions:
: 1) It must have high compression level
: 2) Unpacker code must be short, fast and run on any 64kb Atari.

I don't think option 1) and 2) can be combined into one Atari 8-bit util...

: 3) Source code is welcome
: 4) Speed and memory requirements for packer are uninteresting, I'll
: rewrite it for PC.

Tom Hunt wrote UNZIP for Atari 8-bit (supports only shrink compression), but I
don't think this is what you are looking for.

I'm sure you know about Jiri's "SuperPacker".  Depacking speed and
depacker-size are o.k.  LZW-packer cruches better, but depacking is slow and
requires more code to depack...

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Grtx, Sysop Fox--1                
                                             
                   Remember what the dormouse said...

:
: Anyone?
:
: Jindroush (kub@asw.cz)
:


 
 
3.  Jindrich Kubec  
 More options Oct 3 2001, 6:38 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: Jindrich Kubec <kub@asw.cz> -
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:38:37 +0200
Local: Wed, Oct 3 2001 6:38 am
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Fox-1 wrote:
> : 1) It must have high compression level
> : 2) Unpacker code must be short, fast and run on any 64kb Atari.

> I don't think option 1) and 2) can be combined into one Atari 8-bit util...

It doesn't matter as I don't want to compress the program on Atari. I'll
do it on PeeCee.

> I'm sure you know about Jiri's "SuperPacker".  Depacking speed and
> depacker-size are o.k.  LZW-packer cruches better, but depacking is slow and
> requires more code to depack...

I don't know any packers. In the times I used real Atari, there were
none available (AFAIK).

Jindroush (kub@asw.cz)


 
 
4.  Fox-1  
 More options Oct 4 2001, 7:59 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Fox-1" <DONT_USE_fo@home.nl> -
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:51:39 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 4 2001 4:51 am
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Jindrich Kubec wrote

: It doesn't matter as I don't want to compress the program on Atari. I'll
: do it on PeeCee.

What about de-compression?  I mean, do you want to depack it on Atari using a
special util (like UnARC), or would you add the depack-routine to an Atari
executable so it'll automaticly depack and run when executed?

Superpacker may be the way to go, but it's hard to get in touch with Jiri
Bernasek since he doesn't have an Email-adress....

: I don't know any packers. In the times I used real Atari, there were
: none available (AFAIK).

Packers have been around for a long time (like "the Cruncher" and such).
Superpacker was released in 1998 I think..

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:
: Jindroush (kub@asw.cz)


 
 
5.  Andreas Magenheimer  
 More options Oct 6 2001, 12:27 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: Andreas Magenheimer <magea@mail.uni-mainz.de> -
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:27:27 +0200
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2001 12:27 am
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Well,
did you use atari before 1982 ??? I have my doubts - since they were not
avaiable at that time in Czechoslovakia. But packers were avaiable from
that time on (and maybe even earlier). Ok, most of these "packers" were
simple archivers (like ALF, ARC, Squish, Shrink, Mash, and others) or
simple (bit/byte) crunchers (like the Compressor, the Cruncher, Super
cruncher, etc.).  Afaik, Koala could not only compress pictures, the
routine could also be used to compress other data...  -Andreas.

Jindrich Kubec schrieb:


 
 
6.  Pete  
 More options Oct 6 2001, 2:06 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Pete" <nos@wintermute.org.uk> -
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 05:40:23 +0100
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2001 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Hi,

  > did you use atari before 1982 ???

I bought my first Atari (a 400) during Easter of 1983 and continued using
assorted Atari 8-bit machines until around 1990. I never came across *ANY*
packer/unpacker programs in all that time.

Besides, why would anyone need one?

  TTFN - Pete.


 
 
7.  Ron Hamilton  
 More options Oct 7 2001, 4:30 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Ron Hamilton" <oldatar@atariland.com> -
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 19:30:11 GMT
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2001 4:30 am
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Mostly for telecommunications, at first; they allowed modem transfer of a
boot disk possible. They also add convenience when you want to transfer a
package containing the .exe file along with the .doc, .cfg, .dat, etc.
files.

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-Ron

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

"Pete" <nos@wintermute.org.uk> wrote in message

...


 
 
8.  Pete  
 More options Oct 11 2001, 5:54 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Pete" <p@get.bent.spammers.wintermute.org.uk> -
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:59:23 +0100
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2001 8:59 am
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Hi Ron,

  > Mostly for telecommunications, at first....

You make an excellent point, I was thinking purely in terms of compression
rather than keeping groups of files together in a single archive.

  TTFN - Pete.


 
 
9.  Andreas Magenheimer  
 More options Oct 12 2001, 11:54 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: Andreas Magenheimer <magea@mail.uni-mainz.de> -
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:54:22 +0200
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2001 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: Packer/unpacker
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Well,
whats the use of any packer ?!? To save space !! So, if you wanna save
some space on diskettes, you may use an ML packer, which automatically
unpacks the packed ML file (thus the COM, BIN or EXE file is still
runable). On tape recorders you also save time, since the loading of a
packed program does not take so long (especially when it automatically
unpacks, which takes only a few seconds, as we have seen in many polish
demos and games). Next, if you want to store your Atari programs on a
mailbox or another computer, a packer or archiver is a good choice
therefore. In the old mailbox days there were no emulators avaiable,
thus you had to archive your programs (especially bootdisks had to be
archived as files, since a harddisk does not like bootdisks).  Just my
personal thoughts...   -Andreas.

Pete schrieb:


 

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