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Date: 2001-11 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!  
 
1.  bo snyder  
 More options Nov 1 2001, 12:15 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st
From: bo snyder <bobo_sny@hotmail.com> -
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:17:58 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2001 12:17 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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Then don't read the freakin' newsgroup, dummy. if you are so concerned.
exactly how much is it per second for internet access?  a penny?  if so add
up the amount of penny's as to how many of ben's posts there are over the
period of a year.  i bet its like 50 or 60 cents or something like that
(over a years time).  If you are so darned concerned about that kind of
money, you shouldn't be able to afford a computer much less internet access.

if i am totally wrong (if its like a dollar per second or somethingg like
that) i will take what i said back.

if you are so concerned about the small change cost for one of bens posts
and you are upset over it because of the "principle" then thats just silly.
i think you have "wasted" more money with this debate than you ever would
just ignoring ben's posts.

like others have said, just DON'T download the messages when you scan the
headers!!!


 
 
2.  Steve Sweet  
 More options Nov 1 2001, 3:19 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st, rec.games.video.atari, rec.games.video.marketplace
From: "Steve Sweet" <stevesw@freeuk.com> -
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:43:07 -0000
Local: Wed, Oct 31 2001 8:43 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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Hi Webster

> <snip>

> > If it wasn't for the multi page dribble he posts each time, imposing
> himself

> <snip>

> It's "drivel", not "dribble", dimwit.  If you're going to insult people,
at
> least try to develop your vocabulary, or stick with gradeschool level

words.

Its 'Dribble' here, a local thing I think, as for the gradeschool level, I
thought that is what I was on.

Does the "ahole" in your email address stand for Arsehole??.

--

      Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosy PAK'd MegaSTE.
*  MegaSTE 40Mhz 68030, 68882 FPU, 4+16 Meg RAM, SCSI II, MV-300  *


 
 
3.  james  
 More options Nov 1 2001, 7:20 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: james <james@SPAMMENOT.home.com> -
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:20:35 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2001 7:20 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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[crossposting removed]

Steve Sweet wrote:

> Hi Ken

[snip, and more snippage below...]

> > Some of the comments I've read in this thread and others are, IMO,
> absolutely childish.

> Ive not seen any childish comments yet, some adult discussion, and lots of
> disagreement.

see below a bit.

> Hence your lax attitude to this echo.

This is a usenet newsgroup, neither a 'base' nor a fidonet echo.

> > This newsgroup has become the de facto source of Atari information and
> support today.

> Non-commercial of course.

No such rule exists for this newgroup, cf. below.

> You pratt!!. you'd better tell people to stop buying Ford Fiesta's and
> Vauxhall Nova's coz of the way they are driven by 'Some People'. Dillweed!!.

Childish comment, cf. above.

> Could you take the time to explain what a 'rule' is and its purpose please.
> Or are you the sort of idiot who turns a blind eye to what suits them.

From the faq, at:

...
There is no charter for comp.sys.atari.8bit. (newsgroup pre-dates the
custom)

comp.sys.atari.8bit is not moderated.

DO NOT POST BINARIES in comp.sys.atari.8bit, use the binaries groups
instead.
...

So, no charter, no moderator, and no binaries.  Searching the faq for
'commercial' or 'business' gets no hits.  Looks like Bravo Sierra
_is_ following the rules.

>       Regards from STEve & his nice warm cosy PAK'd MegaSTE.

Regards from James and his IBM-compatible(s), A3000, A2000, A1000,
800XL w/256k, 400 w/48k, TRS-80 Model 1 Level II

 
 
4.  Mod  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 10:50 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st, rec.games.video.atari, rec.games.video.marketplace
From: "Mod" <@> -
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:47:38 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2001 10:47 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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"Steve Sweet" <stevesw@freeuk.com> wrote in message

...

Most of it directed at YOU.

> > I used to be very proud of Atari owners, but these days I'm ashamed of
> them.

> Hence your lax attitude to this echo.

Ken's attitude may be Lax but yours is offensive.

> > This newsgroup has become the de facto source of Atari information and
> support today.

> Non-commercial of course.

> > Even though I firmly believe there is still a place for a simpler
computer
> like the Atari, I do not
> > recommend the platform to anyone anymore because of the way people
behave
> in this newsgroup.

> You pratt!!. you'd better tell people to stop buying Ford Fiesta's and
> Vauxhall Nova's coz of the way they are driven by 'Some People'.

Dillweed!!.

Getting better. You managed to type a couple of sentences
before the abusive insult. Keep trying.

> > There are a number of individuals in this newsgroup who should look at
> > themselves in a mirror, and ask themselves if their actions present a
> > positive or negative impression of the very few Atari users left.

> Could you take the time to explain what a 'rule' is and its purpose
please.
> Or are you the sort of idiot who turns a blind eye to what suits them.

And once again the abuse. Ken makes a valid comment and is called an
_idiot_.

You really are a foul mouthed, ignorant, self opinionated, tight fisted git.
Where you the class room bully aswell ?

You complain enough about others so I think others should start complaining
about you. Just face it, most people don't mind small businesses posting
but do mind your language and abuse. Either grow up or go away.


 
 
5.  Steve Sweet  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 5:03 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st
From: "Steve Sweet" <stevesw@freeuk.com> -
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:29:06 -0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2001 4:29 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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Ho Joakim

> > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Steve Sweet wrote:

> > > Do you pay by the second for your IP use Lonny?.

> > ignore this thread.  If your news program cannot surf headers and you
> > are forced to read every msg, I suggest you upgrade you program or
> > move to a new platform with a better news reader.  I surf headers
> > on my old Atari, I'm baffled why someone who pays by the second
> > does not...

> I'll second that. Downloading the whole newgroup is your choice.

Thats right, and its my choice to suscribe to a non-commercial base, and its
not your or anyone elses decision to make it otherwise.

> Can't blame anyone else for doing that really. Even NEWSie will let
> you scan the headers before downloading posts.

That is not the point is it?, one click in outlook and he's killfiled, but i
shouldnt have to do that should i.

 
 
6.  Rick Cortese  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 7:38 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st
From: "Rick Cortese" <ricor@netmagic.net> -
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:38:58 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2001 7:38 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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"Steve Sweet" <stevesw@freeuk.com> wrote in message

...

True on both levels.

You are right that you shouldn't have to put forward the effort to killfile
someone who is using bandwidth in a manner you find objectionable.

You are right that it is easy for me to killfile you with a click or two in
OE as you have contributed more to off topic and cross posting, taking more
bandwidth, then Ben has in the last year.

Thanks for reminding me or both items. I would suggest you follow your own
pet criteria and don't force more people to do an extra click or two to
killfile you if you are sincere in your beliefs.


 
 
7.  gokmase  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 9:40 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st
From: gokmase <f@cybercrap.no> -
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 23:42:37 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2001 8:42 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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Steve Sweet wrote:
> > I'll second that. Downloading the whole newgroup is your choice.

> Thats right, and its my choice to suscribe to a non-commercial base,
> and its not your or anyone elses decision to make it otherwise.

> > Can't blame anyone else for doing that really. Even NEWSie will let
> > you scan the headers before downloading posts.

> That is not the point is it?, one click in outlook and he's
> killfiled, but i shouldnt have to do that should i.

Well you brought the cost aspects up, that is why I mentioned this.
Well if you're happy with downloading the whole thing, that's ok with
me.

About killfile, I tend to agree. But then, should I have to add you to
my killfile, in order to avoid seeing posts where you call ppl
different kinds of names?

I should not have to do that, should I?

Regards,

Jokaim


 
 
8.  Lonny Pursell  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 11:28 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st
From: Lonny Pursell <syntax.er@line.22> -
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:35:37 -0500
Local: Sat, Nov 3 2001 6:35 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, gokmase wrote:
> Steve Sweet wrote:

> > > I'll second that. Downloading the whole newgroup is your choice.

> I should not have to do that, should I?

At the rate he's generating off topic posts he'll go broke soon...
then perhaps it will stop.  Not the best solution perhaps, but
a solution none the less.  It's his choice.

--
__________________________________________________________________
Lonny Pursell    atari AT bright DOT net    


 
 
9.  tony rudzki  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 9:59 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "tony rudzki" <tony.rud@nu-metrics.com> -
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 00:58:49 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2001 9:58 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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This reminds me of the time I was subscribed to the newsgroup for PIC
(microchip) microcontrollers.   A guy got on and said he was a business
owner who had a contractor who got all pissed off one day,left, and took the
source code with him.  The only thing the guy had was a chip that was
programmed, but copy protected.  The poster was wondering if there was any
way to clear the protection bit, to read the code back out of the thing...

MY PROBLEM, was that I actually gave the guy the benefit of the doubt and
answered him truthfully that there was little he could do....

THEN, and here's the BEST part.... a group of like 2 or 3 guys tore this guy
a new asshole and then proceeded to tear into ME, because I was saying to
the group that 'this guy posting could be telling the truth'.  This attack
went on over 3 or 4 days..... good grief.

The end result? Well, I make a living programming PIC microcontrollers, but
I will NEVER go back there again.  I have also been asked by other guys
using PICs if there was a place on-line and I've told them the truth,'you
can try this group, but ......'

tony


 
 
10.  tony rudzki  
 More options Nov 2 2001, 10:21 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "tony rudzki" <tony.rud@nu-metrics.com> -
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 01:20:27 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2001 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Bravo Sierra want's Your Money! NEW/Revised Links!
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And just to be on the ironic side..... I've looked at all the ads for BSC
that are current, and each of the 3 of them is 3K or less, while this thread
including the copying of the original messages in the replys are EACH 3K,
and theres like 20 or 25 of them!! Sooooo because of this tread, everyone
has downloaded 6X the amount they normally would.....hahahahha

 

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