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Date: 2002-11 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
could somebody please change the address this code is loaded at?  
 
1.  Freddy Offenga  
 More options Nov 1 2002, 12:00 am
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From: "Freddy Offenga" <taf.offe@chello.nl> -
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:52:41 GMT
Local: Thurs, Oct 31 2002 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: could somebody please change the address this code is loaded at?
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Mathy,

As a programmer I've looked into the ASPI thing. It sounds very reasonable
to have a standard device handler for harddisk interfaces (if I understand
it correctly). The only problem I have with it is that there is no good
documentation about it. And I can not say the source code is well
documented. Maybe I missed something?

Freddy.

"Mathy van Nisselroy" <mathy.van_nissel@post.rwth-aachen.de> wrote in
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2.  Mathy van Nisselroy  
 More options Nov 4 2002, 9:50 pm
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From: "Mathy van Nisselroy" <mathy.van_nissel@post.rwth-aachen.de> -
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:50:40 +0100
Local: Mon, Nov 4 2002 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: could somebody please change the address this code is loaded at?
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Howdy Freddy

> As a programmer I've looked into the ASPI thing. It sounds very reasonable
> to have a standard device handler for harddisk interfaces (if I understand
> it correctly). The only problem I have with it is that there is no good
> documentation about it. And I can not say the source code is well
> documented. Maybe I missed something?

Now that you mention it....yes, there is not much documentation in/on the
code itself.  Maybe you could contact Matthias at matthias.bel@gmx.net
Maybe he responds faster when somebody else asks him some questions about
ASPI once in a while too.

BTW you understood correctly (that is, if I understood you correctly
:-))  )   ASPI is to SCSI and IDE what RS232 drivers are to RS232
interfases.  With modems, you just loaded BobTerm no matter what interface
you had and loaded the RS232 drivers from disk or from the interface.  ASPI
does/should do the same for harddisk interfaces.

CU                    Mathy van Nisselroy


 
 
3.  Freddy Offenga  
 More options Nov 5 2002, 12:07 am
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From: "Freddy Offenga" <taf.offe@chello.nl> -
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:07:04 GMT
Local: Tues, Nov 5 2002 12:07 am
Subject: Re: could somebody please change the address this code is loaded at?
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Ok, I understand. Please note the mismatch driver/handler. I'm sure you mean
'handler' when you say 'driver'. The handler is the API which makes it
possible to have different drivers for a certain type of I/O. E.g. you can
have different drivers for the R: device handler.

So, the ASPI handler can be implemented with a SCSI driver for the Black
Box. Or there can be another ASPI handler with an IDE driver for MyIDE. :-)

Freddy.

"Mathy van Nisselroy" <mathy.van_nissel@post.rwth-aachen.de> wrote in
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4.  Mathy van Nisselroy  
 More options Nov 5 2002, 9:29 pm
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From: "Mathy van Nisselroy" <mathy.van_nissel@post.rwth-aachen.de> -
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:29:23 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 5 2002 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: could somebody please change the address this code is loaded at?
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Howdy Freddy

> So, the ASPI handler can be implemented with a SCSI driver for the Black
> Box. Or there can be another ASPI handler with an IDE driver for MyIDE.

:-)

I'll try to remember that in the future.  Maybe it's harder for me to keep
them apart cause I'm not an assembler programmed.

CU                    Mathy van Nisselroy


 
Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...  
 
1.  Winston Smith  
 More options Nov 1 2002, 12:01 am
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From: "Winston Smith" <winston.sm@pinkrose.dhis.org.remove-nnn-this> -
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:00:20 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 12:00 am
Subject: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
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  To: "Mirko Sobe" <atari@12move.de>
  Re: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
  By: "Mirko Sobe" <atari@12move.de> to comp.sys.atari.8bit on Tue Oct 29 2002 02:44 pm

 > I bought it at the JHV (gtx2all) and I like it. Bad, it want not work with
 > Turbo-BASIC aslong I have to load the drivers from disk. Now I rediscovered
 > ATARI-BASIC, witch works best with it (like all 48k software).

     You could try FrOst BASIC....  That was the BASIC that was the BASIC Frank
O. wrote before he wrote TURBO BASIC.  FrOst B.A.S.I.C. doesn't use the RAM
space under the OS, as it was designed for the 800/400 series and not the XL/XE
series.  While it doesn't do as much as TURBO BASIC, it is -- in its own right
-- a *VERY* nice BASIC, all by itself.
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2.  Mirko Sobe  
 More options Nov 1 2002, 5:50 am
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:50:15 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 5:50 am
Subject: Re: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
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I've tried FROST-BASIC, but I didn't work with MyIDE. RUNTIME.COM does also
not work...
But like I sad, I re-discovered ATARI-BASIC. Last few days, I downloaded
many old ATARI-BASIC programs from old magazines from this adress:

Here you can find many programs, witch are 100% compatible with MyIDE.

Mirko


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3.  Andreas Magenheimer  
 More options Nov 5 2002, 4:06 am
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From: Andreas Magenheimer <magea@students.uni-mainz.de> -
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:06:02 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 5 2002 4:06 am
Subject: Re: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
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Hmm,
there seem to be several versions of Turbo Basic, that do not use RAM
under the OS ROM (Turbo Basic XL does!). One is known as Frost basic,
the other one as turbo Basic 400 (maybe the same as Frost Basic?) and a
third one as turbo Basic 3.2q (written for Sparta DOS by Tom Hunt). So,
try one of these if you need a TB that does not use RAM under ROM area.
Well, afaik there are no patches/updates for the TB Runtime or TB
Compiler available - both use RAM under OS ROM...
But I try to avoid these two programs if I can...     -Andreas.

Mirko Sobe schrieb:


 
 
4.  Mirko Sobe  
 More options Nov 1 2002, 5:54 am
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From: "Mirko Sobe" <atari@12move.de> -
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:54:11 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 5:54 am
Subject: Re: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
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Isn't it possible to rewrite MyDOS, so it can handel the Harddisk (like
Turbo-DOS handels Floppy-Speeders)?

Mirko


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5.  Marius Diepenhorst  
 More options Nov 1 2002, 6:39 am
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:39:07 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 6:39 am
Subject: Re: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
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You mean WITHOUT having the software OS?

I have been thinking of that too. As you could read I'm working on a special
gamedos first.

It must be possible to write a special DOS for the MyIDE interface (or edit
an existing dos) But it will never be 100% compatible because some people
wrote software with illegal vector jumping etc.

Btw. The drive routines are not really complicated BUT they take space. If
you put these routines in a DOS the compatibility of this dosk will be less.
So I prefer writing a new DOS specially for MyIDE.

Marius.

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6.  Marius Diepenhorst  
 More options Nov 1 2002, 6:52 am
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:52:57 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 1 2002 6:52 am
Subject: Re: Let's talk about the MyIDE Interface...
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Btw. it is possible to acces the harddisk without the myide OS. You can read
and write drive-info and with some tweaking you can read and write other
sectors too. So it must be possible to do that.

The unidrv.obj is the routine, but this routine is stored in page 6. This
routine will be the heart of my GAMEDOS for MyIDE, but I'll rewrite it and
re-assemble it to another location.

If you read the documentation you'll see the locations $D100 (internal) /
$D500 (external) and up are used for transfer data.

I have the idea that Sijmens interface could do much much MUCH more than he
thinks. (Just like the atari people didn't believe their XL could show 256
and 4096 colours etc.)

Marius

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