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Date: 2003-06 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???  
 
1.  Russ Gilbert  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 12:24 am
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From: "Russ Gilbert" <r@en.com> -
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:24:59 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 12:24 am
Subject: Re: Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???
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Holmes has been recovered at:

user: atari8
pswd: atari4ever
However, I can't get it to download from the site with
a shell account, IE 6 or Netscape 7.
It has about 7 Questron files, BASIC ones and
3 zip files.
The problem you may be having is that the crack
of a copy protected program doesn't work entirely
right. You say you can get the disk 3.  Often a person
who cracks a program doesn't see that it can play
all the way to the end.

 
Has anyone gotten Questron working on any emulator besides Apple where you can actually finish the game?  
 
2.  richard cortese  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 2:20 am
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From: "richard cortese" <ricor@earthlink.net> -
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:21:13 GMT
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 2:21 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten Questron working on any emulator besides Apple where you can actually finish the game?
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FWIW: The Atari versions of at least 2 of the old RPGs<I believe Questron
from SSI was the one> wouldn't run on a real Atari. They played to various
stages of completion and then crashed.

I bought copies of them from San Jose computer when they deeply discounted
their 8-bit software to ~$5-10 each. Ended up having to buy the ST versions,
which actually worked, to play the game through.

I would suggest you look for an ST emulator and try to find that version.


 
 
3.  Sean Whalen  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 3:33 am
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From: Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com> -
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 14:33:45 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 3:33 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten Questron working on any emulator besides Apple where you can actually finish the game?
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WOW, thank you so much for telling me.  I always thought I somehow
broke a lot of games and I had no idea why.  Maybe they just didn't
work right.  And thanks for the Atari ST version info.  I'll look into
it!  :)

On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:21:13 GMT, "richard cortese"


 
 
4.  Sean Whalen  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 3:38 am
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From: Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com> -
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 14:38:18 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 3:38 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten Questron working on any emulator besides Apple where you can actually finish the game?
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Okay, thanks for telling me.  I had a lot of old games that I thought
I used to break, maybe they just didn't work right.  In Search of the
Most Amazing Thing was one of them, I owned it twice and both times it
kept dumping out to BASIC eventually.  I'll look into the ST version,
thanks for the info.  And sorry if this posts twice, but I thought I
had posted it and it's not showing up and it usually does right away.

On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:21:13 GMT, "richard cortese"


 
 
5.  Sean Whalen  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 4:19 am
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From: Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com> -
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:19:11 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 4:19 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten Questron working on any emulator besides Apple where you can actually finish the game?
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Well I got an Atari ST emulator working, Gem2000 from emulators.com.
Never saw an Atari ST, even has a desktop, pretty cool for an Atari.
:)   Now finding the game's another issue, nothing's turned up so far.
If anyone has it or knows where I can get it, let me know.  I'll keep
looking, but I'll settle for the Apple version if I have to.  :)

On Sat, 31 May 2003 14:38:18 -0400, Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com>
wrote:


 
 
6.  Sean Whalen  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 4:49 am
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From: Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com> -
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:49:29 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 4:49 am
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten Questron working on any emulator besides Apple where you can actually finish the game?
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BTW there were two Questrons, I'm looking for the first one.  I don't
think that was released for the ST, only the second one.  At least
that's the impression I'm getting.   And the  ST looks like it was a
later system in the late 80s, while Questron 1 was 1983, I just did a
web search to see.  It'd be unusual for SSI to port an old game over
to a newer computer.  But thanks for trying, I think I'll stick to the
Apple version, seems the most reliable.  I just hope it doesn't have a
bad disk too or anything.  But if anyone knows another version that
works reliably, let me know.

On Sat, 31 May 2003 15:19:11 -0400, Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com>
wrote:


 
Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???  
 
7.  Aaron  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 1:55 pm
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From: "Aaron" <holmesat@hotmail.com> -
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:56:11 +1200
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???
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"Sean Whalen" <a@nospam.com> wrote in message

...

> I'm sorry but I thought the whole reason for Holmes shutting down his
> Atari site was lack of time and/or money to run the server.  Now I see
> the site's still there, but it changed to, Sega???   He's free to run

I 'dont' have anytime for the upkeep of the Atari site.  The files took up
over 500Mb of server space all up, and I now only have 10Mb!!  Thus I put up
my Sega pages which where prepared ages ago, when I had some time, as they
are currently pretty small.  I do sometimes wonder why I bothered running
the site at all, with the bitching from people who think they could do it
better, but never tried.  It was up for 5 years, if you didnt grab the game
in that time, too bad!  There are many other sites that have Atari games
available for download.

> whatever website he wants, but if he was having legal issues or some
> such with certain people over Atari disk images he could of at least
> been honest about it.  Or if that wasn't the case he could of just

That statement makes me mad...  I WAS HONEST about it.  I did have two
publishers email me with a final notice about hosting their games.  I cant
be bothered keeping track of games I'm not allowed to host.  You may have
noticed how slack I was at keeping the pages updated as it was, let alone
having to figure out what games are allowed, and what arent.  So I called it
quits.  Get the games elsewhere.  What I do with my small amount of spare
time, is my business, not yours.

> left the Atari site up, he obviously has server space and it's not
> like the files take up much...   I'm sorry, I just don't understand,
> just seems like he abandoned Atari like a lot of other people.

I havent abandoned anything, I just happen to have a life now, and have
passed the 'hosting role' to the many others out there.  I still collect and
actively use my Atari's when I can.  But I also, as I always have, enjoy
using my Sega SC3000 computers just as much.  Even though the Atari is the
superior computer of the two.

Anyway, if you wanted to find out my reasons, why havent you email me
directly?  Instead of this bitching in this group.

Sometimes I wonder why I ever bothered.  People can be so ungrateful.

Holmes


 
 
8.  Sean Whalen  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 10:40 pm
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From: Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com> -
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:40:55 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???
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I think you're very incorrect about how many people are hosting these
games.  Why should they bother doing something you won't?  

On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:56:11 +1200, "Aaron" <holmesat@hotmail.com>
wrote:


 
 
9.  Sean Whalen  
 More options Jun 1 2003, 10:49 pm
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From: Sean Whalen <a@nospam.com> -
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:49:51 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2003 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???
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And just take the Atari section down.  You want to support Sega, even
though it's the most crappiest old PC company out of them all, fine.
Just forget about the old Atari and let it die out already.  You've
pretty much gone the last few steps to that goal anyway, dumping it on
everyone else.  If you bothered to keep up with the scene, you'd know
how incorrect you are about others hosting the files.    You're all
talk, no action, dumping the problem on other people, just like
everyone else in the world.   Really it's hypocrtical for you to tell
others to do what YOU won't.  We don't need people like you in the old
computer scene, so just take your whole site down already, stop
pretending you care, and get on with your precious life.  Stop coming
to this newsgroup.  Then you won't have to hear anyone bitch.  Or
maybe the truth is just hard for you to swallow.

On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:56:11 +1200, "Aaron" <holmesat@hotmail.com>
wrote:


 
 
10.  lp  
 More options Jun 2 2003, 2:38 am
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From: lp <g@basic.net> -
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:37:53 -0400
Local: Mon, Jun 2 2003 2:37 am
Subject: Re: Holmes replaced Atari, with, SEGA???
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in article kp0kdv07eekn02snaconld9pjs3417f@4ax.com, Sean Whalen at
a@nospam.com wrote on 6/1/03 9:49 AM:

> And just take the Atari section down.  You want to support Sega, even
> though it's the most crappiest old PC company out of them all, fine.
> Just forget about the old Atari and let it die out already.  You've
> pretty much gone the last few steps to that goal anyway, dumping it on
> everyone else.  If you bothered to keep up with the scene, you'd know
> how incorrect you are about others hosting the files.    You're all
> talk, no action, dumping the problem on other people, just like
> everyone else in the world.   Really it's hypocrtical for you to tell
> others to do what YOU won't.  We don't need people like you in the old
> computer scene, so just take your whole site down already, stop
> pretending you care, and get on with your precious life.  Stop coming
> to this newsgroup.  Then you won't have to hear anyone bitch.  Or
> maybe the truth is just hard for you to swallow.

That really was uncalled for.  People change, lives change, companies
change, times change, and Aaron should be commended for the time hid did
give back to the community.  Some people never give back anything, they just
sit back and take.

The files are available or were available on a CD or did you miss out on
that too... you could take the free time you spend here complaining
and host your own 500mb file archive just as easily.  It's not that hard.

--
Lonny Pursell  


 

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