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Date: 2004-12 atari800xl.org comp.sys.atari.8bit
E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!  
 
1.  carmel  
 More options Dec 1 2004, 2:55 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st, pdx.forsale
From: carmel_andr@hotmail.com (carmel) -
Date: 30 Nov 2004 09:55:11 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 1 2004 2:55 am
Subject: Re: E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!
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Alternatively, T O... Tits Out (for the lads)

For Americans friends, i refer to that collective bunch the live in
what is called THE U S of A, and those that claim to speak the ENGLISH
Language (US English that is)

Additionally, it's you American's that need delivering from Mr Bush,
We on the other side of the big blue need delivering from the
Americans

As it could be proved that the majority of the Americans voted george
bush (that gormless one) back in of a second term (and if that was a
close election, then the Ukranian farse, must have been even closer)

Ahhh, so much for modern democracy (thanks largely to the ancient
greeks)


 
 
2.  Ronald J. Hall  
 More options Dec 1 2004, 3:19 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Ronald J. Hall" <darkl@darkforce.ky.org> -
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:19:41 -0500
Local: Wed, Dec 1 2004 3:19 am
Subject: Re: E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!
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Oh sorry...this reply was meant for "comp.sys.atari.8bit" not,
"comp.sys.english.political.opinions"... :-)

 
 
3.  B G  
 More options Dec 1 2004, 3:35 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st, pdx.forsale
From: B G <f@oo.com> -
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:35:31 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 1 2004 3:35 am
Subject: Re: E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!
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As Barry Crimmins (by way of Bill Hicks) said:

“‘Hey, buddy,’ this guy says to him after a show. ‘America—love it
or leave it!’ And Crimmins goes, ‘What? And be a victim of our
foreign policy?’“


 
 
4.  Steve Sweet  
 More options Dec 1 2004, 5:35 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st, pdx.forsale
From: "Steve Sweet" <steve.sweet@no-s@btopenworld.com> -
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:35:09 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Dec 1 2004 5:35 am
Subject: Re: E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!
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Hi Peop's

>> Looks like our American friends have invaded the Internet (god!
>> deliver us from the Americans)

"America", "Friends" isn't that a double negative.

--

Regards, Steve S.


 
 
5.  carmel  
 More options Dec 1 2004, 5:57 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit, comp.sys.atari.st, pdx.forsale
From: carmel_andr@hotmail.com (carmel) -
Date: 1 Dec 2004 00:57:54 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 1 2004 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!
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The Connection between America and Atari (just incase some of you
think that this is getting way too political) is that Atari was
ORIGINALLY an American company/registered company, started up by Nolan
Bushnell (an American from Utah I believe)... this was until the
french (in the shape of infogrammes) managed to get their dirty digits
on the much beloved Atari

Additionally i'm pretty sure that before he started 'living in a
bottle' even your Mr Bush liked to play on his Atari (a closet Atari
fan perhaps)

And before you Americans started falling in love with that JAP CRAP
(Sega, Nintendo, Sony etc), wasn't America's premier Videogame
company/product/brand called Atari


 
 
6.  Greg Goodwin  
 More options Dec 4 2004, 5:57 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Greg Goodwin" <Greg.Goodwinp0.f2.n8@fmlynet.org> -
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2004 00:57:54
Local: Sat, Dec 4 2004 12:57 am
Subject: Re: E-Mail/Mailing Lists & Atari Survey!
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    Uhh... I'm sorry, what is the big deal about America and Atari suddenly
    being brought up?

       Americans have been on the internet for years, and in the Atari
       newsgroups since its inception.  Notice I am stating this as a fact of
       "We are here along with everyone else" verses "We started the thing to
       begin with."

       So yeh... Americans are on the internet.  We've had many hands in
       Atari's history.  And we are bringing this up why?

       Doc Clu
       Dallas, TX - USA

> From: carmel_andr@hotmail.com (carmel)
> The Connection between America and Atari (just incase some of you
> think that this is getting way too political) is that Atari was
> ORIGINALLY an American company/registered company, started up by Nolan
> Bushnell (an American from Utah I believe)... this was until the
> french (in the shape of infogrammes) managed to get their dirty digits
> on the much beloved Atari
> Additionally i'm pretty sure that before he started 'living in a
> bottle' even your Mr Bush liked to play on his Atari (a closet Atari
> fan perhaps)
> And before you Americans started falling in love with that JAP CRAP
> (Sega, Nintendo, Sony etc), wasn't America's premier Videogame
> company/product/brand called Atari

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High density floppies  
 
1.  Rick D.  
 More options Dec 1 2004, 2:14 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Rick D." <sysop2@a8maestro.com> -
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:12 -0600
Local: Wed, Dec 1 2004 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: High density floppies
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"Javier." wrote:
> I own a XF551 plain and simple, and this drive can format high density floppies
> without problem. My 1050 can read and write to this disks first formatted in the
> XF551 but it can not format any high density disk, now my Indus drive can not
> read or write high density floppies preformated with the XF551, why? i don't
> know it has a tandom mech identical to the one on the 1050. Hope it helps.

Javier,  the XF551 does not do High Density.  It does Single(128) and Double(256)
densities which is bytes per sector..
High Density is at least 512 bytes per sector. All of the rest defines
formatting...single or double sided, 40 tracks, for A8 drives usually, or 77/80
tracks for 5.25" high capacity drives(which has attracted the name high density,
though they aren't).  Single or double sided,  80 track or 160 track for 3.5"
drives. Add to this the three methods of double sided..1 then 2, 1 then 2 reversed,
alternate 1/2.  An indus drive should be able to read the first two dbl sided
methods if it does double density right.  Writing is problomatic on all three.

The easiest way to use 720K 3.5" drives on the A8 is 1)ATR8000, XF551 upgrade, and
3)Blackbox.  They can be formatted using 256 byte sectors. Can not use hd media.
Using 1.44 meg 3.5" is a lot of work.  Requires adding an 16mHz clock. Better spent
on a hard drive.

Lastly, using Ape, SIO2PC, etc is also a useful alternative.  Not my choice-I like
the real hardware.

Rick D.


 
 
2.  Andreas Magenheimer  
 More options Dec 3 2004, 4:03 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: Andreas Magenheimer <magea@students.uni-mainz.de> -
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 20:03:19 +0100
Local: Fri, Dec 3 2004 4:03 am
Subject: Re: High density floppies
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Well,
it is possible to use HD disks and format them in Single or Double
density with a XF551 drive... This works with a XF drive, but I am quite
sure the data on these HD disks will not last very long...     -Andreas.

 
 
3.  Greg Goodwin  
 More options Dec 4 2004, 6:06 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Greg Goodwin" <Greg.Goodwinp0.f2.n8@fmlynet.org> -
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2004 01:06:46
Local: Sat, Dec 4 2004 1:06 am
Subject: Re: High density floppies
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FamilyNet Newsgate

    That's alright.  I am either thinking of tossing these HD floppies, or
    making some weird floppy art out of them (like lining a ceiling in floppies
    or something).

       Doc Clu

> From: Andreas Magenheimer <magea@students.uni-mainz.de>
> Well,
> it is possible to use HD disks and format them in Single or Double
> density with a XF551 drive... This works with a XF drive, but I am quite
> sure the data on these HD disks will not last very long...     -Andreas.

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4.  Greg Goodwin  
 More options Dec 4 2004, 5:53 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: "Greg Goodwin" <Greg.Goodwinp0.f2.n8@fmlynet.org> -
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2004 00:53:38
Local: Sat, Dec 4 2004 12:53 am
Subject: Re: High density floppies
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FamilyNet Newsgate

> From: "Rick D." <sysop2@a8maestro.com>
> Lastly, using Ape, SIO2PC, etc is also a useful alternative.  Not my choice-I
> like
> the real hardware.
> Rick D.

    I agree with that one whole heartedly.  At the moment.  Guess I am too lazy
    to get a windows PC up and running at home, so I make do with the usual
    methods of getting around on a Atari.

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